Tuesday, March 31, 2009

i sold my chametz!

Thank Hashem for Lubies!

Click here to go to the Chabad.org Sell Your Chametz Online Form!
Don't forget to sell the Chametz you keep at school & work!

8 comments:

KandaBer said...

While I am not a rabbi, it seems to me that this cannot possibly be valid, as there is no way to make a kinyan (halachically acceptable transfer of rights).

In addition, selling the vessels themselves would mean that all your vessels and utensils would have to be put in the mikvah after Pesach, having been owned by a non-Jew on Pesach.

Anonymous said...

Whilst you are not a Rabbi...maybe find out forsure before you go paskaning things.

KandaBer said...

Um, which part of "it seems to me" did you have trouble with?

As far as my point about re-toiveling the keilim, I have heard that from a Rov.

Moshe said...

Rabbi Mintz from Oorah also does online. Perfectly legit.

Maidel said...

huh? who puts dishes in the mikvah after Pesach?

Moshe said...

Missed the part about the toiveling. Have never heard about it either not from my Rabbi or from any publications or online sources.
I call shenanigans.

KandaBer said...

I will try again.

Regarding the on-line sale of chametz, all I said was, "it seems to me ..." If someone can point me in the direction of a mainstream source that says a kinyan is not necessary (or that an on-line sale works), I would very much appreciate it.

Regarding the tevillah, what I said was, "my Rabbi told me that if you sell your actual vessels to a non-Jew, they would need to be toveled after Pesach." This is why, I believe, we sell the chametz "in" the vessels, not the vessels themselves.

Pinny said...

I am not a Rabbi; I never thought about this until now; I am just surmising...

Under the rules of "zochin l'odom shelo b'fonov" ("[One can] bring a benefit to [another] person even if he is not here [i.e., without his knowledge].") I would expect that the Rav does a kinyan with someone who represents the online customers.

We find a similar situation in the laws of Eruv Chatzeiros, where someone can make an eruv using his kid or wife to represent the other neighbors in the required transaction.