tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post5774741851860866064..comments2023-10-11T22:45:32.049-04:00Comments on material maidel: worth a read - thanks D-bearMaidelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11342989598403517433noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-26223025332120545872009-02-05T22:06:00.000-05:002009-02-05T22:06:00.000-05:00According to Chassidus (Chabad Chassidus) G-d did ...According to Chassidus (Chabad Chassidus) G-d did create evil, or rather He concealed His presence in order to allow evil to exist. But He actually had a reason for this. The whole reason that G-d created the world is so that a world should exist in which G-dliness is concealed! He wants the evil to be there only so that there will be a balance of good and evil in the world. Then He tells us to make the right choices, to control our inclination to evil. And it's hard. And we do it anyway. And when we use this world for good, we are revealing the G-dliness in everything in this world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-65180255324330079552009-02-05T10:44:00.000-05:002009-02-05T10:44:00.000-05:00If you're intrested in the subject, read Daas Tvun...If you're intrested in the subject, read Daas Tvunos (Feldheim sells an English-Hebrew version called The Knowing Heart) which deals directly with this issue in depth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-3960304915595883112009-02-04T23:57:00.000-05:002009-02-04T23:57:00.000-05:00G-d did create darkness.G-d did create darkness.Mikeinmidwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18076346601047947913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-57825015969666811442009-02-04T21:49:00.000-05:002009-02-04T21:49:00.000-05:00A cute story, but fallacious on so many levels. Fi...A cute story, but fallacious on so many levels. <BR/><BR/>Firstly, even if the professor could indeed prove that God was evil and had no good in him, it still wouldn't mean that religion, like Judaism for example was a myth. It could very well be that God is evil and Judaism is true, since we have no objective definition for evil. What we may consider evil to be one thing, and Judaism may consider that thing to be good. Simply because we live in a society where different moral standards exists does not mean the morality of Judaism also needs to change, and thus, there would be no contradiction to an evil God and Judaism being true.<BR/><BR/>Personally I have never really found the problem of evil convincing as an argument against God. There are arguments against God that are compelling with relation to "Did God create everything that exists?", but this(problem of evil) is definitely not one of them.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, the professor could just as easily argue that it's Punkt Fakert: It's not good that should be compared to heat, it's evil that should be compared to heat.<BR/><BR/>And thus his counter would be that there is no such thing in the world as "Good", since all good is just the absence of evil. Only evil exists, very good people have little evil in them, and very evil people have a lot of evil in them. <BR/><BR/>Thirdly, the whole notion of modeling good vs. evil a one-existing / lack-of-existence manor brings up even more questions<BR/><BR/>Does this mean that realities that have noting to do with the spectrum of "good" in this sense are ALL evil?<BR/><BR/>Are parallel universes evil?<BR/>Are viruses evil?<BR/>Are quantum fluctuations evil?<BR/>Is dark matter evil? Dark energy?<BR/><BR/>What about actions that seem to have nothing to do with "good"?<BR/><BR/>Is wearing polka dot socks with open saddles a good thing? If not, does that mean wearing polka dot socks with open shoes evil since evil is the absence of good? <BR/><BR/>Of course the list goes on, but you get the point.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I actually do think the problem with evil is not such a good argument. The problem with time sounds more compelling to me.Yeshivish Atheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10590827852733947547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-73653029844253731082009-02-04T20:17:00.000-05:002009-02-04T20:17:00.000-05:00You really find this compelling? How old are you?...You really find this compelling? How old are you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-27260207905232808092009-02-04T16:48:00.000-05:002009-02-04T16:48:00.000-05:00Actually, evil, like insane or wrong, is a sociolo...Actually, evil, like insane or wrong, is a sociological concept. All of these are defined by the society where you live.Ookamikunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145237927656807738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-18779976835632125502009-02-04T14:07:00.000-05:002009-02-04T14:07:00.000-05:00Now, having had your fun, here's the BIG problem w...Now, having had your fun, here's the BIG problem with the story: God did create evil, as it says in Navi, "who formeth light and createth darkness, who makes peace and createth evil, I am the Lord" (Isaiah somewhere).<BR/><BR/>So the professor was onto something, right? Except it's a well established philosophical position in Judaism that while God did create evil, how He did (is evil merely the absence of good and therefore by limiting the expression of His goodness, he tacitly creates evil past those limits) is an old, well-debated question.<BR/><BR/>But the bottom line is: the students were actually wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-36200113767113881502009-02-04T14:04:00.000-05:002009-02-04T14:04:00.000-05:00MM- I KNEW you were a closet lubav. have you been ...MM- I KNEW you were a closet lubav. have you been studying chasiddus???<BR/><BR/>loved it :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-74460405287823091482009-02-04T12:57:00.000-05:002009-02-04T12:57:00.000-05:00It's good to think of it in this way. That really ...It's good to think of it in this way. That really there are only good people, there are no evil people. Everybody has the potential to be good, but when people don't act good, that's what makes them evil.Jewish Side of Babysitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15792110478994916775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-1638404660414434032009-02-04T12:35:00.000-05:002009-02-04T12:35:00.000-05:00You're right - worth a read.You're right - worth a read.Bilingualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309187099940998081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-52178787835967841302009-02-04T11:29:00.000-05:002009-02-04T11:29:00.000-05:00Old medical story:The professor is teaching a clas...Old medical story:<BR/>The professor is teaching a class in biochemistry and the student puts up his hand:<BR/>"Sir," he says, "can you show me proof that everything you're teaching us is true?"<BR/>The professor is taken somewhat aback and says "Well, not right now but the scientific literature upon which this lecture is out there."<BR/>"Oh," says the student. "Until I've read it all to confirm you're right, can I consider you a liar?"<BR/>The professor thinks for a moment and asks: "Tell me, are the two people you call your parents really that? I mean, is your father your real father?"<BR/>"Of course he is," the student answers.<BR/>"You have proof, like DNA testing?"<BR/>"Well of course not," says the student, "but I could get it done to prove it."<BR/>"Okay," says the professor. "Until you do, can I call you an illegimitate bastard?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-53792575858225889982009-02-04T10:29:00.000-05:002009-02-04T10:29:00.000-05:00Oh snap!Oh snap!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-18211312426834744302009-02-04T09:09:00.000-05:002009-02-04T09:09:00.000-05:00"...and according to the principal...."The princip..."...and according to the principal...."<BR/><BR/>The principal was there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7594551858000480911.post-65815648850999573522009-02-04T09:02:00.000-05:002009-02-04T09:02:00.000-05:00Did the "student" drop the class or did he stay an...Did the "student" drop the class or did he stay and the professor failed him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com